hatunike
Apr 11, 01:23 PM
Interesting discussion.
It seems that many people pirate Adobe products because they want to learn the tools, but don't have a job to pay for it's high prices. Those who are anti-piracy seem to argue that if you have the tools and the know-how than you can easily make enough money to pay for the price.
Do those in the anti-piracy camp have major issues with someone who pirates Adobe products, but doesn't "profit" from them?....i.e doesn't make even enough money to cover the costs of the original products or even makes zero dollars?
Of course it is still illegal, but it seems like everyone's defense revolves around "if you make money off of a product than you should pay for it"..
I personally feel that pirating is wrong in ALL cases. However, I couldn't care less if someone pirated it, and profited in NO way.
Piracy aside, I do think it's interesting to see Adobe going this way, and I don't think it will pay off. At a time when Apple is enabling developers with it's App store to be able to charge less for apps, but earn more money with a higher volume of downloads. Not to mention the customer gets some amazing benefits by using the app store: integration with the os (think Launchpad), easy updates, multiple licenses across a users account, use of itunes account to make purchases, etc
Seems like Adobe is just BEGGING for developers to take away their business. It's already happening with pixelmator, aperature, etc doing 80% of what adobe does, but at fraction of the cost.
I give it one more year, and Adobe's products will be entirely replaceable by App store Apps that will be SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper. Developers will be making their money, the apps will be cheap enough that piracy won't be as big of an issue, and everyone will be happy (except Adobe....and those heavily invested into their software model, and business).
It seems that many people pirate Adobe products because they want to learn the tools, but don't have a job to pay for it's high prices. Those who are anti-piracy seem to argue that if you have the tools and the know-how than you can easily make enough money to pay for the price.
Do those in the anti-piracy camp have major issues with someone who pirates Adobe products, but doesn't "profit" from them?....i.e doesn't make even enough money to cover the costs of the original products or even makes zero dollars?
Of course it is still illegal, but it seems like everyone's defense revolves around "if you make money off of a product than you should pay for it"..
I personally feel that pirating is wrong in ALL cases. However, I couldn't care less if someone pirated it, and profited in NO way.
Piracy aside, I do think it's interesting to see Adobe going this way, and I don't think it will pay off. At a time when Apple is enabling developers with it's App store to be able to charge less for apps, but earn more money with a higher volume of downloads. Not to mention the customer gets some amazing benefits by using the app store: integration with the os (think Launchpad), easy updates, multiple licenses across a users account, use of itunes account to make purchases, etc
Seems like Adobe is just BEGGING for developers to take away their business. It's already happening with pixelmator, aperature, etc doing 80% of what adobe does, but at fraction of the cost.
I give it one more year, and Adobe's products will be entirely replaceable by App store Apps that will be SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper. Developers will be making their money, the apps will be cheap enough that piracy won't be as big of an issue, and everyone will be happy (except Adobe....and those heavily invested into their software model, and business).
starflyer
Mar 29, 10:46 AM
Except for the fact that Apple is not about to release an iPad 3 this year. They have absolutely no reason to.
Except to get in on the September iPod refresh timeframe. Read this. (http://daringfireball.net/2011/02/the_next_six_months)
Except to get in on the September iPod refresh timeframe. Read this. (http://daringfireball.net/2011/02/the_next_six_months)
tomitom
Apr 17, 10:09 AM
All they are doing today is a pre-order there is no one device avail on BEST BUY stores !!!
called 5 stores and they all say the same WE DO NOT HAVE IPAD 2 STOCK !!
This promo is for pre-order only !! with shipping date of 3-4 weeks and u have to leave a 100$ bill to reserve it so what the point anybody !!!?!!
called 5 stores and they all say the same WE DO NOT HAVE IPAD 2 STOCK !!
This promo is for pre-order only !! with shipping date of 3-4 weeks and u have to leave a 100$ bill to reserve it so what the point anybody !!!?!!
EricNau
Mar 29, 06:00 PM
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tomitom
Apr 17, 10:09 AM
All they are doing today is a pre-order there is no one device avail on BEST BUY stores !!!
called 5 stores and they all say the same WE DO NOT HAVE IPAD 2 STOCK !!
This promo is for pre-order only !! with shipping date of 3-4 weeks and u have to leave a 100$ bill to reserve it so what the point anybody !!!?!!
called 5 stores and they all say the same WE DO NOT HAVE IPAD 2 STOCK !!
This promo is for pre-order only !! with shipping date of 3-4 weeks and u have to leave a 100$ bill to reserve it so what the point anybody !!!?!!
Darkroom
Nov 2, 07:51 PM
Users don't care about flash, they care about websites. Some site developers seem to care more about Flash than about their users. Therefore, we get crappy Flash "websites" that don't work for the users. Who is at fault here? The developer.
your argument is subjective. while i agree with you that some flash sites can be a bit heavy, there are a lot that work very well. some even have quicker load time that static HTML/Javascript/CSS/Images. here's a site i've developed earlier this year which i like to believe is fairly light weight (http://www.deskguise.com) (click the character's nose!), it allows for back/forward, deep linking and SEO functionality, while including animations that are currently not possible with HTML/CSS.
HTML/CSS will not compete with flash in the future. however, WebGL certainly will. WebGL is going to be great!
It's the developer's job to use technologies that will be future-proof and well, not suck.
technologies change all the time and the best developers learn how to adapt to the constant change using the best production tools they can. so while (as i mentioned) WebGL will give adobe a run for their money, it's unlikely that adobe will simply quit development for flash, which by the way has been around since the mid 90s. flash will only become more advanced.
your argument is subjective. while i agree with you that some flash sites can be a bit heavy, there are a lot that work very well. some even have quicker load time that static HTML/Javascript/CSS/Images. here's a site i've developed earlier this year which i like to believe is fairly light weight (http://www.deskguise.com) (click the character's nose!), it allows for back/forward, deep linking and SEO functionality, while including animations that are currently not possible with HTML/CSS.
HTML/CSS will not compete with flash in the future. however, WebGL certainly will. WebGL is going to be great!
It's the developer's job to use technologies that will be future-proof and well, not suck.
technologies change all the time and the best developers learn how to adapt to the constant change using the best production tools they can. so while (as i mentioned) WebGL will give adobe a run for their money, it's unlikely that adobe will simply quit development for flash, which by the way has been around since the mid 90s. flash will only become more advanced.
ZoomZoomZoom
Aug 29, 09:20 AM
I don't know what people are fussing about. If these price points are true, Windows Vista is pretty cheap.
Remember, if you buy Vista, it'll most likely last at least 4-5 years before the next paid upgrade, unlike with OS X where if you want the latest and greatest, you're looking at an upgrade almost every year.
Vista looks to be a big jump from WinXP too, and seems a lot more mac-like. Complain all you want, but more competition puts Cupertino into a sweat and drives Apple into innovating even more. Support for Direct X 10 is going to be felt in about 1-2 years when people start getting DX10 graphics cards and more games take advantage of it.
Remember, if you buy Vista, it'll most likely last at least 4-5 years before the next paid upgrade, unlike with OS X where if you want the latest and greatest, you're looking at an upgrade almost every year.
Vista looks to be a big jump from WinXP too, and seems a lot more mac-like. Complain all you want, but more competition puts Cupertino into a sweat and drives Apple into innovating even more. Support for Direct X 10 is going to be felt in about 1-2 years when people start getting DX10 graphics cards and more games take advantage of it.
X2468
Mar 30, 10:33 AM
The name "iPhone 4G" adds a letter, it doesn't remove one. It allows a 4G phone to be marketed as such, just as they did with the 3G.
I don't care what they call it, just build one that can make calls without blaming the carrier for Apples sloppy work.
Funny how not long ago there was a poll and most who responded voted to keep the tiny 3.5" display. Now that the fanboys god has considered a 4.0" suddenly the push-back went away. So hypocritical, fanboys wait for their god to tell them what's good for them.
I don't care what they call it, just build one that can make calls without blaming the carrier for Apples sloppy work.
Funny how not long ago there was a poll and most who responded voted to keep the tiny 3.5" display. Now that the fanboys god has considered a 4.0" suddenly the push-back went away. So hypocritical, fanboys wait for their god to tell them what's good for them.
jobberwacky
Oct 27, 01:58 PM
Perhaps you've never been burned by one. I have.
The classic was of course iTunes 2.1, which sent one's personal files to /dev/null. Yes, all of them. And no, the Apple-paid recovery attempt wasn't successful.
Yes, I did have an update of the night before, but not of research data of that day.
The classic was of course iTunes 2.1, which sent one's personal files to /dev/null. Yes, all of them. And no, the Apple-paid recovery attempt wasn't successful.
Yes, I did have an update of the night before, but not of research data of that day.
dukebound85
Oct 27, 11:38 AM
My girlfriends MacBook, runs at 15 degrees C pretty much all the time.
Here is a screen shot,
Rich.
well thats wrong pure and simple. any type of circuit WILL generate heat unless it is a thermoelectric cooler which this isn't
also about the update, i just got a box like 3 days ago to return it to apple for repair of heat sink. I have had only 2 days since July that the thing has rsd'd on me. The first mabe 1.5weeks ago, being only 2 shutdowns before being stable and the next a week later being 6.
would you guys reccomend still sending it in for repair? i need my computer for work and school but also need it to be dependable. any suggestions?
oh and does anyone know hoe soon you have to mail in your computer after you receive the box?
also i found out there is an apple store in denver(close to where i live). could they replace it there?
thanks for taking the time to read my questions
Here is a screen shot,
Rich.
well thats wrong pure and simple. any type of circuit WILL generate heat unless it is a thermoelectric cooler which this isn't
also about the update, i just got a box like 3 days ago to return it to apple for repair of heat sink. I have had only 2 days since July that the thing has rsd'd on me. The first mabe 1.5weeks ago, being only 2 shutdowns before being stable and the next a week later being 6.
would you guys reccomend still sending it in for repair? i need my computer for work and school but also need it to be dependable. any suggestions?
oh and does anyone know hoe soon you have to mail in your computer after you receive the box?
also i found out there is an apple store in denver(close to where i live). could they replace it there?
thanks for taking the time to read my questions
bringbackduo
Sep 6, 09:32 AM
Well done! your info was correct again. I should open a betting book on macrumors!
What are the REAL chances of a MBP speedbump at Paris?
What are the REAL chances of a MBP speedbump at Paris?
Mastidon
Mar 29, 02:33 AM
You would think it was a U2 concert or something.
I have been to the past 2 WWDCs. I got 2 tickets yesterday, one for myself and one for my Director of Engineering. I debated on buying that second or holding off. Glad I didn't hold off.
I certainly understand the Keynote is the most exciting thing. Hey, I still tell people Steve Jobs yelled at me (and everybody else in the room) last year during it.
The sessions are good, but the labs are even better. Normally, Apple development support is mediocre on a good day for any of the new APIs. Sending an email only waiting for a vague response. But WWDC is something different. You can get your code reviewed and get direct answers to questions. If you are a serious developer, this show is worth te price of buying a scalped ticket. :D
I have been to the past 2 WWDCs. I got 2 tickets yesterday, one for myself and one for my Director of Engineering. I debated on buying that second or holding off. Glad I didn't hold off.
I certainly understand the Keynote is the most exciting thing. Hey, I still tell people Steve Jobs yelled at me (and everybody else in the room) last year during it.
The sessions are good, but the labs are even better. Normally, Apple development support is mediocre on a good day for any of the new APIs. Sending an email only waiting for a vague response. But WWDC is something different. You can get your code reviewed and get direct answers to questions. If you are a serious developer, this show is worth te price of buying a scalped ticket. :D
Edge100
Nov 27, 01:05 PM
Lets hope they remaster them - the stereo effects on the original versions can be really painful on a pair of headphones.
+1
The quality of The Beatles CD releases are, for the most part, poor. Of course, they date from 1987, and digital tech has improved greatly since then.
The music itself could also do with a remix. Mixing drums entirely in one stereo channel is difficult to take in headphones!
+1
The quality of The Beatles CD releases are, for the most part, poor. Of course, they date from 1987, and digital tech has improved greatly since then.
The music itself could also do with a remix. Mixing drums entirely in one stereo channel is difficult to take in headphones!
Cinch
Sep 6, 10:16 AM
As a MBP owner who bought a rev1 model right when they came out -- and has been sending it in to fix its many, many problems constantly, and is now seeing it lag behind the iMacs in speed and power -- I feel like I bought a lemon. Thanks, Apple, for pissing in my face.
I feel the same way with my black MacBook, which is awaiting a DHL box. I guess there was something behind those who say they'll wait for Rev B, afterall :D .
Cinch
I feel the same way with my black MacBook, which is awaiting a DHL box. I guess there was something behind those who say they'll wait for Rev B, afterall :D .
Cinch
wackymacky
Nov 2, 04:13 PM
Putting aside the fact that Flash is crap, fair enough for Adobe for being so frank.
spazzcat
Mar 29, 05:23 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8C148 Safari/6533.18.5)
I think it will be more like $79...
I think it will be more like $79...
dscuber9000
Mar 10, 10:36 PM
yes I do ... and I am 100% in support ... I would be more than willing to pay more taxes if Canada increased our spending to bring us more on par with the US.
Uh... why? You would put your country in our economic tailspin of disaster to have a bigger military for the off-chance Russia invades? :D
Uh... why? You would put your country in our economic tailspin of disaster to have a bigger military for the off-chance Russia invades? :D
slu
Mar 18, 11:12 PM
Where have I heard that one before? (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/11/05/apple-discontinues-xserve-only-available-until-january-31st/)
Apples to Oranges (heh). Consumer market is different and I am sure the classic does far, far more volume AND revenue than the xserve.
Apples to Oranges (heh). Consumer market is different and I am sure the classic does far, far more volume AND revenue than the xserve.
ezekielrage_99
Sep 5, 12:48 AM
I have been wanting to move from Windows to an Imac, but I was looking to join up with Apple finally moving to more competitive machines in terms of speed. With the Merom being Apple's choice instead of the more upgradeable Conroe I am wondering what we will all be thinking 6 or 8 months from now when Windows will be running on potentially 4 core machines while we are all stuck with 2 and no headroom. Probably not a concern for current Mac devotees that see the OS as plenty of reason to stick with Apple, but in my mind, instead of the first generation of "faster" Macs we may be buying into just another generation of Macs that run significantly behind the power curve.
Gilbare
Jan 11, 02:57 PM
Anyone thought it could be a 3G upgrade for the iPhone being announced? Last time I checked 3G frequency = 'something in the air';)
gnasher729
Nov 1, 07:47 AM
Yeap, they drilled a hole in the center of the macbook and added a screw.
Mine had a screw there when it was brand new.
Mine had a screw there when it was brand new.
cvaldes
Apr 2, 01:10 PM
An "Image Sensor" is not a camera. The sensor is part of a camera. In addition to a sensor one needs to add at least a lens, some buffer memory and a controller. Sony makes image sensors for many, other camera makers.
8MP is way to many pixels for a cell phone camera. The only reason to have so many is for marketing purposes because consumers seem to think (wrongly) that more is better. What really limits sharpness of a cell phone camera is the physical size of the lens. If the lens projects a blurred image onto the focal plane the best sensors will simply make a very good recording of the blurred image.
Correct. An 8M image sensor for cameraphones is retarded because it is beyond the resolving power of the lens itself. It's just generating big images of digital noise; no extra information is being captured.
Really a 3-5 megapixel sensor is really the resolution limit based on the optics. What manufacturers should concentrate on is low-light performance.
This also helps video recording since those frames are basically taken around 1/60 of a second shutter speeds. For still shots, you can have longer exposures but you don't have that luxury when shooting video.
8MP is way to many pixels for a cell phone camera. The only reason to have so many is for marketing purposes because consumers seem to think (wrongly) that more is better. What really limits sharpness of a cell phone camera is the physical size of the lens. If the lens projects a blurred image onto the focal plane the best sensors will simply make a very good recording of the blurred image.
Correct. An 8M image sensor for cameraphones is retarded because it is beyond the resolving power of the lens itself. It's just generating big images of digital noise; no extra information is being captured.
Really a 3-5 megapixel sensor is really the resolution limit based on the optics. What manufacturers should concentrate on is low-light performance.
This also helps video recording since those frames are basically taken around 1/60 of a second shutter speeds. For still shots, you can have longer exposures but you don't have that luxury when shooting video.
thisisahughes
Mar 28, 10:02 PM
I don't mind Radio Shack for random overpriced cables in an emergency, but I would never buy anything else in there. The salespeople are just far too pushy and circle around you like vultures attracted to a rotting carcass.
+1 kudos.
+1 kudos.
mashny
Sep 24, 07:08 PM
Here's an idea:
I can't imagine Target, Best Buy, Circuit City... have any great love for Wal-Mart, and I'd imagine that between them, they represenent a reasonably large slice of the DVD-sales market. Not only that, but as ubiquitous as Wal-Mart is, the other big-box stores also have quite a large footprint. So, what if Apple teams up with them in some way? Of course the movie studios would need to be convinced that such an idea would work.
For instance, if you buy a DVD at any of those places, you receive a code number on your receipt that would allow you to buy any other movie, produced by that studio, for $11.99 (or some price that represents a discount from iTunes's standard pricing). You would enter this code when purchasing the film from Apple's store. To prevent someone guessing or making up a valid code, perhaps there would be two codes that would be entered -- The code(s) would be sent to iTunes by the retailer's computer at the time of purchase, and the consumer would be prompted for them at the time of his or her iTunes purchase.
People would probably be inclined to choose Target (or whatever the retailer) over Wal-Mart for DVDs because they get the DVD they want as well as the option of downloading an iTunes movie at a discount. They could even give a friend or family member the code(s) if there are no movies they themselves are interested in downloading. The retailer, of course, benefits from added sales and the knowledge they've taken business away from Wal-Mart.
This is just a rough example of something Apple might consider doing. I'm sure there are many other methods of Apple teaming with retailers--perhaps even online retailers--to overcome Wal-Mart's bullying and economic fascism.
There's also the American panacea: have Steve Jobs go on Oprah and explain to America what Wal-Mart is doing...
mashny
I can't imagine Target, Best Buy, Circuit City... have any great love for Wal-Mart, and I'd imagine that between them, they represenent a reasonably large slice of the DVD-sales market. Not only that, but as ubiquitous as Wal-Mart is, the other big-box stores also have quite a large footprint. So, what if Apple teams up with them in some way? Of course the movie studios would need to be convinced that such an idea would work.
For instance, if you buy a DVD at any of those places, you receive a code number on your receipt that would allow you to buy any other movie, produced by that studio, for $11.99 (or some price that represents a discount from iTunes's standard pricing). You would enter this code when purchasing the film from Apple's store. To prevent someone guessing or making up a valid code, perhaps there would be two codes that would be entered -- The code(s) would be sent to iTunes by the retailer's computer at the time of purchase, and the consumer would be prompted for them at the time of his or her iTunes purchase.
People would probably be inclined to choose Target (or whatever the retailer) over Wal-Mart for DVDs because they get the DVD they want as well as the option of downloading an iTunes movie at a discount. They could even give a friend or family member the code(s) if there are no movies they themselves are interested in downloading. The retailer, of course, benefits from added sales and the knowledge they've taken business away from Wal-Mart.
This is just a rough example of something Apple might consider doing. I'm sure there are many other methods of Apple teaming with retailers--perhaps even online retailers--to overcome Wal-Mart's bullying and economic fascism.
There's also the American panacea: have Steve Jobs go on Oprah and explain to America what Wal-Mart is doing...
mashny
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